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LornaMac


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Quote: from Rossy on 8:51 pm on June 11, 2002
Very nice, ta very much. We were sitting at an Italian restaurant in Hannover before heading to watch Rod Stewart.
Naturally on the way, we helped a few old Frau's across the strasse (apart from one old English woman, we left her on a traffic island), rescued a budgie from a tree and put out a fire in an oil refinery.....just a normal day in the life of a public spirited TA member...
You should really consider joining us Lorna, you sound like somebody who devotes her life to the care and enjoyment of others....



Crumz - if you young gents were off to see Rod, sounds like the old English bat might've been your best chance  for a lumber too!

Total Posts: 15 | Joined June 2002 | Posted on: 7:42 pm on June 12, 2002 | IP
Jacobite


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Lorna,if Scotland had its own independent radio and TV stations it would be called the Scottish broadcasting company or whatever but it isn't its called the BBC.
I don't know how radio Scotland compares to a regional english station but it certainly can't be considered a national station when they depend on bosses in another country giving them money to keep going .To me a national station is one that has comlete control over its programming and regional TV would be based around Scotland.And by all means have a wee go at"those who complain but can't be bothered voting for it"but there are those who vote for it and work for it and stand in elections for it.  

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Total Posts: 376 | Joined Sep. 2001 | Posted on: 8:16 pm on June 12, 2002 | IP
ally



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hey guys - I'm pretty pished here - just got back from a few drinks - so I hope I don't misspell!!

Lorna - BBC Scotland is not ignoring the world cup - it never has and isn't doing so now.... I'm not entirely sure what you meant by that!

Excuse me if I sounded arrogant with my last post - but I am pissed off by what you said - why the hell do English people always say that? ...."say what?" you ask

along the lines of.....
"If you don't like how english people act - become independent" -  is that your answer to everything??? do you think 300 years of union should be abolished over inconsequential differences of opinion?

lorna - not all scots want scotland to become independent - if we did - WE WOULD!

<caution - i'm going ideological>
I want scotland to stay part of the UK because I think the union of wholly different nations which make up the UK is a good starting block for a country, which in the future I hope will accept and rejoice in multi-culturalism and social acceptance and eventually overthrow the monarchy and class system which is slowly killing our nation.

But the UK I want must also celebrate the Scottish way of life, as it does now with the English. I want Scotland to have a stronger sense of identity - scottish television, scottish culture that ain't tartan kitsch shite, scottish language, (the proper recognition of gaelic), blah blah blah

Okay, so Scotland isn't in the world cup, and of-course, England is - and you would expect the English media to go somewhat overboard with the coverage - but it is relentless, absolutely relentless. Constant analysis of beckham's foot, metatarsils, "premiership" players from other countries, foreign players that "would never" get into the england team, sven sven sven and england's chances of vengence over the rotten greasy, not very good at accounting "argies"

ARROGANT ARROGANT ARROGANT!

lorna - in the pub a few days ago I was enjoying a great game of football on the telly with a few pals - for it to be interrupted, and then cancelled - CANCELLED!!! have terrorists flown another plane into a sky-scraper? has foot and mouth come back? No! the bbc has decided to cancel this fixture which has been scheduled to be viewed for months because they want to talk about "england's chances".

how can anyone be so insensitive to other nations? other nations? you ask....

wales, scotland and northern ireland - remember them?
the BBC, ITV and SKY certainly don't.

Total Posts: 179 | Joined Jan. 2002 | Posted on: 12:13 am on June 13, 2002 | IP
Kernaghan



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Quote: from ally on 12:13 am on June 13, 2002


But the UK I want must also celebrate the Scottish way of life, as it does now with the English.



It does??

Whew. For a moment there I thought a scots-dominated UK government was setting scotland up with its own parliament while denying England the same privilege, dismantling historic English institutions, concreting over England's countryside, denigrating its way of life, flooding it with immigrants, running its education and health servires into the ground, banning its national flag, abolishing its historic counties and splitting it up into unaccountable euro-regions. How wrong can you be eh?

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bazman



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Lorna
         The EBC overules what we choose to watch.
And we are regarded as a region not a country. A country that pays 120 million pounds in tv licence fees each year - of which, 40 million is given to bbc scotland. One pound in three, that`s a stunning good deal!
And we will vote to get rid of you.  

Total Posts: 262 | Joined June 2002 | Posted on: 12:54 am on June 13, 2002 | IP
ally



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what's the government got to do with the world cup coverage? and what has it got to do with the afore-mentioned english or scottish way of life?
your paranoia aside - scots dominated government? hahahaaa - enemy within eh kernie? come on pal! If you are suggesting the intentions of the scots in the cabinet is to do - or is doing now, what you describe about england - is a harmful sleight against people (whatever kind of people you may think they are) from your sister nation.

Your argument about english regions is valid kernie, the insensitive euro areas should be abolished right now - but there is a need for proper parliamentary representation for the english "regions" - Germany's federal nation recognises the autonomy of Bavaria, and such regions, whilst not compromising the integrity of the state. England should do the same - the north east and the south east of england (just for example) are different - THEY ARE! - different people, different lifestyles, different accents - they need to have a voice - and it will not break up the honourable, ancient, unique nation that is england - nothing could break up england! (Well, maybe a decent scottish army with a nicked trident submarine - HAHAHA... shit I am pissed!)

To say england needs it's very own parliament is mad - it's had one for hundreds of years - it's called westminster, and it's in a country called england.

How wrong can I be? you ask. I'm pretty flaky some of the time - but wrong? there is no right or wrong - only opinions.

Kernie, I would have thought you would share my hope, however naive & childish it may be, for a better Britain - a Britain of different nations living together peacefully. Can we at least agree on that?

(Edited by ally at 1:00 am on June 13, 2002)

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bazman



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What?
          You don`t like your own medicine kernie? I happen to like the scots government in westminster.
And isn`t your name irish anyway?

Total Posts: 262 | Joined June 2002 | Posted on: 1:02 am on June 13, 2002 | IP
Bzzzz



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Can somebody please show me e*****h culture?

Must say I totally disagree with Ally...



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Kernaghan



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Bzzzz, we have more culture than you could shake a stick at but sometimes people are so determined not to believe something that it gets boring trying to convince them. 'Ha ha, no such thing as English culture' - heard it all before. Tell me just how cultured scotland is these days then?

bazman - ever heard of an internet handle??

Sorry ally, but I don't believe in Britain. It's a sham I'm afraid. Like other scottish unionists, you want to remain attached to us but realise that you're going to have to destroy us to keep that attachment secure. Better to look for an alternative I think.


"To say england needs it's very own parliament is mad"

No it isn't. Nothing could be more sane. The scots seem obsessed with the 'regions' of England, but how would you like it if scotland were saddled with a clutch of bullshit regional assemblies which do nothing to recognise its status as a nation? I don't like it being done to my country either. You say that these regions needn't break up England but unless there were an English parliament to oversee them then they WOULD. Beyond any doubt. That's what they were cooked up for in the first place. It's easy to swallow the government's propaganda and say that there are great differences between the 'regions' of England but no one can define where these regions begin and end (unlike Germany, which is a completely different kettle of fish - if 'Britain' has a Bavaria then it's scotland so careful what comparisons you make) and in any case it just isn't true that England is riven with all these demographic divisions - I used to think so too but the more I look the more I see that fundamentally the English ARE one people. If you want a really divided society then look at your own.


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ally



Opinionated Wind Bag
   
english culture?

..... big brother - a load of explainable shite that keeps the english happy - and the scots can't get out fast enough!


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Kernaghan



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Deep-fried mars bars?
Bis?
Rab C. Nesbitt?
The Sash?

Easy to pick a piece of crap and use it to mock a whole culture, isn't it? Big Brother isn't English - it was invented by your great friends the Dutch and is if you ask me the archtype of BRITISH culture - anodyne post-modern substance-free multiculturalist crap. And good riddance to the scots on it - two obnoxious self-important arses and no mistaking.

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ally



Opinionated Wind Bag
   
kernie - enjoying your good posts from before - I thought you had a bit of sense - but your last few posts dismissing the scots in such a racist way (no other way to describe your shit) is just the same old boring crap from an arrogant englishman - go bore someone else with it - I'm not listening anymore.

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Shneckie Nick



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C.B.A.

(Edited by Shneckie Nick at 10:26 am on June 13, 2002)

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Shneckie Nick



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(Edited by Shneckie Nick at 10:27 am on June 13, 2002)

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mr shangalang



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sorry ally..i agree with kernie on the uk bit..its time for seperation of this unworkable mess. perhaps then we can see ourselves on a par with the cultural havens that are the scandanavian block nations...and although we have a neutered snp these days..don't forget the importance of north sea oil, which props up the english westminster treasury (yeah kernie, we argued this one before..but i'm looking for territorial waters around scotland encompassing most of the vastly profitable oil fields). the uk...gb...greater england, run by unionists and monorchists...good riddance!

Total Posts: 481 | Joined Sep. 2001 | Posted on: 1:40 am on June 13, 2002 | IP
Jacobite


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No suprise that I'm with Mr Shangalang on this one,and I've not seen anything racist posted by Kernaghan merely giving his opinions,don't agree with them all though,one point though Kernaghan how do you think england will change with Scottish independence,and I honestly don't think the Scots in government are anti english in any way Brian Wilson and John Reid to name but two are famous for their anti Scottish views.The devolution secret is out anyway Scotland wasn't allowed its own parliament because of any great feelings towards Scotland it was because the EU was going to order it anyway which is the same process the english regions are going to go through.
And its all the fault of those damm english commentators.

(Edited by Jacobite at 7:06 am on June 13, 2002)

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