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TARTAN SCOUSER
GET A LIFE!!! |
     
Our exhaustive search for a fitting name has finally come to it's conclusion. So it's oot wi NWETA and hello to...........................................................
SIR ARCHIBALD DOUGLAS TARTAN ARMY
(yes, I Know it spells S.A.D. T.A., but you can't have everything!!)
Sir Archibald Douglas, I have discovered, Invaded Northern Ingurlund in 1388 through a clever mix of disception and counter intelligence that would put Berti's tactics v. France to shame. (You know, make them think were crap in the first half, then gub 'em 3-1 in the second  )
The Great man (Sir Archie, not Berti) lead the largest ever mustered Scottish Invasion force south, culminating in a battle in the Northumbrian town of Otterburn on 19th August 1388 where the main prize was the standard of the Sassenach Sir Henry (Hotspur) of Northumberland, which the brave Sir Archibald (Known as Bell the Cat, I believe?????????) had captured earlier.
To cut a long one short, We Gubbed the Sassens good style, leaving them 2,040 captured, killed or wounded to our 100 (yes, one hundred) dead and 200 (Yes two hundred!!) Captured.
The full story can be seen on:
http://www.royal-stuarts.org/otterburn.htm
NWETA IS DEID, LONG LIVE SADTA!!!!!! 
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Dubhghlas: Jamais Arriere!
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deek fae kdy
Talks too much |
so is this "bell the cat" any relation o davie the cat?
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TARTAN SCOUSER
GET A LIFE!!! |
Mibbes Bell the Cat IS Davie the Cat, just like Bruce Wayne IS Batman etc??????
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Dubhghlas: Jamais Arriere!
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Kernaghan
GET A LIFE!!! |
Just like this natty name change IS an end to scots having a go at English people for glorying in past wars??
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TARTAN SCOUSER
GET A LIFE!!! |
And the world IS left wondering what Kernie IS on about in yet another cryptic post.
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Dubhghlas: Jamais Arriere!
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Diggie Don
Opinionated Wind Bag |
Quote: from Kernaghan on 1:21 am on July 23, 2002
Just like this natty name change IS an end to scots having a go at English people for glorying in past wars??
Maybe they wouldn't keep having a go if English people ever managed to refer to past English wars. The vast majority of English war references are to wars fought by Britain. Then we only provide a disproportionate amount of the cannon fodder so how could we be upset.
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Ally Macabre
More Than Words |
I think Kernie is pointing out that on this occasion the Scots were invading England, and being the aggressor - as opposed to Bannockburn when they faced an invading foreign army and were fighting for freedom.
So, in fact, SADTA is a celebration of Scots being the bad-guys... (for a change).
However, I'm sure with the right kind of historical research we could probably find some kind of unsound evidence to 'prove' that this was a tit-for-tat skirmish where Bell-the-Cat decided to go and retrieve his cows which had been stolen earlier by this Henry Hotspur vagabond...
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winky
Opinionated Wind Bag |
mibee the baw got kicked over the wa and they went to git it back afore a bad man pit a knife thru it
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edi mon robert heres p.c. murdoch!!!!
tell soapy soutar an fat boab tae hide up stoorie brae,wee ecks still sniffin gloo!!
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deek fae kdy
Talks too much |
ts,if yer batman theory IS true,davie the cat must be,well no a kick in the erse affy 600 years auld,respect.
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TARTAN SCOUSER
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Ally, Fair point. How about for a positive spin that they were invading en**and to re claim historical Scottish lands (Carlisle, Berwick etc. etc.) Otterburn sounds like a pretty Scottish name to me! Unfortunately, from reading the story that's the best I can make of it. As for the Scots being the bad guys, Surely not
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Kernaghan
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Otterburn: Old English 'otter stream' :anal:
Surely you mean you were fighting for Carlisle, Otterburn etc so you could hand them back to their rightful owners the Ancient Britons? And we only fought back because we didn't trust you to?? It was all just a big misunderstanding
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blackearnside
GET A LIFE!!! |
It fell about the Lammas tide,
When muir-men win their hay,
The doughty Earl of Douglas rode
To England for a prey:
He chose the Gordons and the Graemes,
The Lindsays licht and gay;
But the Jardines wad not with him ride,
And they rue it to this day.
The Otterbourne's a bonnie burn;
'Tis pleasant there to be;
But there is nocht at Otterbourne
To feed my men and me:
The deer rins wild on hill and dale,
Birds flee from tree to tree;
But there is neither bread nor kail
To fend my men and me.
Yet I will stay at Otterbourne,
Where you shall welcome be;
If ye come not at three days' end,
A fause lord I'll ca' thee.
Thither I'll come, proud Percy said,
By the might of Our Ladye!
There will I bide thee, said Douglas,
My troth I plicht to thee.
They lichted high on Otterbourne
Upon the bent sae broun;
They lichted high on Otterbourne,
And threw their palliouns doun.
And he that had a bonnie boy,
Sent out his horse to grass;
He that had not a bonnie boy,
His ain servant he was.
But up then spak a little page,
Before the peep o' dawn-
0 wauken, wauken, my guid lord,
For Percy's hard at han'.
Ye lee, ye lee, ye leear loud!
Sae loud I hear ye lee:
For Percy had not men yestreen
To dicht my men and me.
But I have dream'd a dreary dream,
Beyond the Isle of Skye,
I saw a dead man win a fecht.
And I think that man was I.
He belted on his guid braid sword,
And to the field he ran
But he forgot the helmet strong,
That should have kept his brain.
When Percy wi' the Douglas met
I wat lie was fu' fain!
They swak'd their swords, till sair they swat,
And the bluid ran doun like rain.
But Percy wi' his guid bricht sword,
That could sae sharply wound,
Has wounded Douglas on the brow,
Till he fell to the ground.
Then he call'd on his little page,
And said, Run speedilie,
And fetch my am dear sister's son,
Sir Hugh Montgomery.
My nephew guid, the Douglas said,
What recks the death of ane
Last night I drcani'd a dreary dream,
But I ken the day's thy ain.
My wonnd is deep; I fain would sleep;
Tak the vanguard o' the three,
And bide me by the bracken bush,
That grows on yonder lea.
0 bury me by the bracken bush,
Benoath the blooming breer;
Let never living mortal ken
That a kindly Scot lies here.
He lifted up that noble lord,
Wi' the saut tear in his e'e;
He hid him in the bracken bush,
That his ain men micht not see.
The moon was clear, the day drew near,
The spears in flinders flew;
And mony a gallant Englishman
Ere day the Scotsmen slew.
Nowr yield, Percy! Montgom'ry cried,
Or else I'll lay thee low!
Whom shall I yield to, said Percy,
Since I see it must be so?
Then shalt not yield to lord nor loin,
Nor shalt thou yield to me;
But yield thee to the bracken bush
That grows on yonder lea!
Braw sang
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Alba mo gradhach dachaigh duthaich
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rosstheshepherd
Fresh ideas |
TS
we are 100% goin with this name ,lets find the flag and we are laffin
kernie
get tae....................................
ROSS
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lets all do the samba,
lets all do the samba
na na na na
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Kernaghan
GET A LIFE!!! |
Never been to Ross actually . Hear it's lovely this time of year.
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TARTAN SCOUSER
GET A LIFE!!! |
Kernie,
Does your humour know no bounds?? Be still my aching sides. Laugh? I almost did. Etc. etc. etc. :yawnveryborednow:
Blackearnside,
Absolutely fantastic!! Cheers for that, if we met at Hampden a pint is definately on it's wat to ya!!
(Edited by TARTAN SCOUSER at 5:45 pm on July 24, 2002)
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Total Posts: 476 | Joined Feb. 2002 | Posted on: 5:42 pm on July 24, 2002 | IP
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Thamish
Fresh ideas |
All in agreement got that E**land out at last!
Ross new a flag maker so lets get it together and we can get it made.
Will speak to you when I get back.
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rosstheshepherd
Fresh ideas |
right guys,good news and empty wallets,
having finally come up with the name,we are all in agreement,"sir archibald douglas ta",i have been round today to try and get us sorted with the next thing
A BIG F##K OFF FLAG.........
12x6 with 3 wee badges on it and the writing,all homemade and all yours,for,,,,,,,...............................................................................................................................................................................£500,cash
i know it sounds a lot,but for those i know who are 100%interested i will send e mails to,and those who want to join or know people who wish to join tell them ,ok guys check your e mails and get back to me asapso we can get this to hampden in 3 weeks and to the faroes as long as there is someone else to help me,
cheers ROSS
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lets all do the samba,
lets all do the samba
na na na na
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