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Ephialtes


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Honor to those who in their lives
have defined and guard their Thermopylae
Never stirring from duty;
just and upright in all their deeds,
yet with pity and compassion too;
generous when they are rich, and when
they are poor, again a little generous,
again helping as much as they can;
always speaking the truth,
yet without hatred for those who lie.

And more honor is due to them
when they foresee (and many do foresee)
that Ephialtes will finally appear,
and that the Medes in the end will go through.

Constantine P. Cavafy (1903


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''death over retreat''

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Bzzzz



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Ok, thats the answer before the question...
whit the F is a Thermopylae?

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Quia quamdiu Centum ex nobis viui remanserint, nuncquam Anglorum dominio aliquatenus volumus subiugari.

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Lamia



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hello there big boy, pity about your aim...

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Three vermillion snakes of female face. The smallest motion, filled with grace.
By faint degrees, voice, lute and pleasure ceased. A deadly silence step by step increased......

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Ephialtes


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Thermopylae is a pass that was being defended
by the Spartans against the Persians,
King Leonidas and his 300 men. They all died to a man
when Ephialtes showed the enemy a path.
The modern greek word for  nightmares is "ephialtes".


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''death over retreat''

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Lamia



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sorry, I thought you were 50 foot tall....


(Edited by Lamia at 10:25 pm on Oct. 24, 2002)

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Three vermillion snakes of female face. The smallest motion, filled with grace.
By faint degrees, voice, lute and pleasure ceased. A deadly silence step by step increased......

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Ephialtes


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Ahh maybe it is my brother you are thinking of?

Otus?

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''death over retreat''

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Lamia



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you too, my dear...

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Three vermillion snakes of female face. The smallest motion, filled with grace.
By faint degrees, voice, lute and pleasure ceased. A deadly silence step by step increased......

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Ephialtes


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Efharisto' poli'

kalispe'ra

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''death over retreat''

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Mick North Croy



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square sausage is the best

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fitlikemin



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a thought it wiz a boat that delivered tea!!!!!

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Andy Gray



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Another parallel universe!!!!!!!!

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CROY TARTAN ARMY

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Thermopylae



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Wha????
'Fraid I'm not really that interesting...

Dunno where all that Greek stuff came from! I picked the name from the Aberdeen Clipper ship and had no idea about the origins of the name. Spooky!

That poem sounds just like me...

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Mazzy



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Ouch - reading that hurt ma heid

but I may slip it in to a conversation one day

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Andy Gray



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I doubt it Mazzy.

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CROY TARTAN ARMY

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Tartan Sheep



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I don't know Andy - it's amazing some of the things Mazzy talks about when she's magoo'd

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Themistocles


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Thermopylae

An extreme composite clipper ship designed by Bernard Waymouth of London and build in 1868 by Walter Hood & Co., Aberdeen. She measured 212'0"×36'0"×20'9" and tonnage 991 GRT, 948 NRT and 927 tons under deck. The under deck coefficient was 0,58. Rigged with royal sails, single topgallant and double top-sails.

1868 June
Launched at the shipyard of Walter Hood & Co, Aberdeen, for the White Star Line (George Thompson & Co.), Aberdeen. Assigned the official British Reg. No. 60688 and signal WPVJ. Employed in the China tea trade.

1868-1874
In command of Captain Robert Kemball, late of the Yang-Tsze.

1868 November 8 —
Sailed on her maiden voyage from Gravesend to Hobson's Bay, Melbourne, in 63 days. The fastest passage on record.

1869 February 10 — March 13
Sailed from Newcastle, NSW, to Shanghai in 31 days.

1869 July 3 - September 30
Sailed from Foochow to London in 91 days.

1870 July 30 - November 12
Sailed from Shanghai to London in 105 days.

1871 June 25 - October 6
Sailed from Shanghai to London in 103 days.

1872 June 18 - October 11
In 1872 Thermopylae left Shanghai with a cargo of tea for London in company with the London clipper Cutty Sark. After racing each other for two weeks Cutty Sark lost her rudder after having passed the Sunda Straits. Thermopylae finally arrived in London only seven days ahead of her rival.

1873 July 11 - October 19
Sailed from Foochow to London in 100 days.

1874 July 15 - October 27
Sailed from Shanghai to London in 104 days.

1875-(1879)
In command of Captain Charles Matheson.

1875 July 11 - October 31
Sailed from Foochow to London in 112 days.

1876 July 29 - November 24
Sailed from Foochow to London in 118 days.

1877 July 8 - October 20
Sailed from Shanghai to London in 104 days.

1878 November 27 - March 17
Sailed from Shanghai to London in 110 days.

1881 October 30 - September 30
Sailed from Foochow to London in 108 days.

1882
Sailed from Sydney to Start Point in 76 days.

c1889
Sold to W. Ross & Co., London.

1890
Sold to Redford, Montreal, for £ 5000 and who cut her down her rig to that of a barque.

1893 February 15 — March 10
Sailed from Victoria, BC, in ballast to Hong Kong in 23 days.

1895
Sold to the Portuguese Government which converted her to a training ship and renamed her Pedro Nunes.

1907 October 13
Sunk by gunfire and torpedoes by units of the Portuguese Navy at sea off the Tagus.

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'wooden wall that shall not fall'

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Thermopylae



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Aye that's the one! The very badger!

So what's with all this Themistocles and Ephialtes stuff...



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Send me to Portugal and call me Pedro...

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Lorne



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Mick north Croy. I'm wi you on this!

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"Fair fa' your honest, sonsie face,
Great chieftain o' the pudding-race!"
Rabbie Burns

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Thermopylae



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Hey, anyone idiot can search the web...

THEMISTOCLES

BUILT FOR THE ABERDEEN LINE BY HARLAND AND WOLFF IN 1911.SHE WAS USED AS A TROOP SHIP IN 1914.SHE WAS TAKEN OVER BY SHAW SAVILL & ALBION IN 1932 ( ALONG WITH THE REST OF THE ABERDEEN VESSELS ) SHE WAS USED ON THE UK TO AUSTRALIA RUN BOTH IN ABERDEEN SERVICE AND ALSO WHEN SHE WAS TAKEN OVER BY SSA.SHE WAS LAID UP IN 1946 AND SCRAPPED THE FOLLOWING YEAR AT DALMUIR.

Hmmmmmm. I know someone from Dalmuir...



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Send me to Portugal and call me Pedro...

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Themistocles


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Alternatively:

THEMISTOCLES
525 - c.449 BC
Greek Statesman

Themistocles was a briliant commander and an Athenian political leader.

Themistocles began his political career after the battle of Marathon and the retreat of the Persians. He believed that the Persians would return and proposed to build a strong fleet to meet them at sea. This was opposed by Aristides, the leader of Athens. Themistocles' naval strategy prevailed and Aristides was banished. When the Persians returned, they defeated the Spartans at Thermopylae and occupied Athens. Themistocles had moved the Athenians to the island of Salamis, where he engaged and destroyed the Persian fleet. Themistocles had made Athens a great power but the people believed that he had accepted bribes, and in 471 BC he was banished from the city.


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'wooden wall that shall not fall'

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