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William Wallace
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When I was at Bannockburn today (never tire of that place  ) I saw a couple of newspaper clippings about the 'Bannockburn 4', the guys/gals that nicked the saltire before France '98 and replaced it with a flag or something saying, 'Gone to France' and after the World Cup they returned it with the message 'merci' on another flag. And they've sent postcards to the museum saying they would return for WC2002. Did anyone ever find out who they were, anyone know them? Apparently it usually takes the staff 2 hours to take the saltire down and they would need special tools. Nice stunt.
Also, I saw a Bannockburn re-enactment advertised, sounds like it'd be good, the 31st August and 1st September, was anyone planning on going? There's also the Wallace day at Elderslie on the 24th August.
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Jacobite
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I'm going to Elderslie,can't go the following week though have my own Wallace day to run.
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William Wallace
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Is that the Stonehaven one? I don't know which is closer to me.
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Dianne
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Christ.... It's like Corronation St!!!!!
Free the Stonehaven One!!!!!!!!!
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RoundWindow
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Have you got anymore details on the re-enactment?
I already know who's playin', but stuff like time, is it ticketed, etc?
Cheers
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William Wallace
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Sure RoundWindow:
31 August and 1 September
11am to 5pm
Tickets available now from the Albert Hall box office, Stirling.
Tel (O1786) 473544
It's at the heritage centre and to give you an idea of the price, a family ticket is £13.
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Jacobite
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Aye WW,thats the Stonehaven one.
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Andy Gray
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Careful WW;
There could be Stirling Polis reading this.........
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William Wallace
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I'm assuming the Elderslie one is the village in Ayrshire and not the church in Glasgow or wherever. Was it ever confirmed whether he was born one place or the other?
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William Wallace
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Quote: from Andy Gray on 9:41 pm on July 13, 2002
Careful WW;
There could be Stirling Polis reading this.........
Let's hope not. 
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Marky
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WW,
Elderslie in not in Ayrshire, its in Renfrewshire on the outskirts of Paisley, and as far as I'm aware it was where you were born.
I just thought I'd helpfully point that out.
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William Wallace
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I'm just taking it from one of the biographies I read which says: "In Victorian times when Wallace's life came under great scrutiny, Elderslie was assumed to be the parish on the outskirts of Glasgow. Now some historians believe that his birthplace was near the seaside town of Ayr in south-west Scotland."
I also read something along the same lines in the Ayrshire and Arran tourist magazine or something, although I know that doesnae mean much because they'll claim anything to get tourists. It must still be debatable, I don't know if you could describe Paisley as the outskirts of Glasgow though.
(Edited by William Wallace at 11:06 pm on July 13, 2002)
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William Wallace
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If you can proove me wrong, I'll make sure I get a better book.
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Marky
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Cough!!! Splutter!!! Spit!!!!
People in Paisley huv taken an eye oot fur less!!!
Outskirts of Glasgow indeed. I hardly think that the biggest town in Scotland could be decribed as being a suburb of Glasgow.
I suppose geographically speaking I would have to concede somewhat reluctantly that it is tecnically "on the outskirts of Glasgow". Elderslie however is not, being on the outskirts of Paisley on the non Glasgow side, so to speak.
Anyway WW, I cannae prove anything to you other than Elderslie is most definitely in Renfrewshire and that they claim, not least on their village signposts, to be "The Birthplace of William Wallace".
Suppose it could be just Wullie Wallace who used tae tan the meths ootside the Paisley cross lavvies.
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Bzzzz
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Bannockburn 4 MY ERSE!!!
it wis 5!!!
Its a sworn secret...
just like the Stone ae Scone wis...
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kill the dead
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Sorry but after all the complaints about the English banging on about 1966 (which they don't) I see people going on about Bannockburn ...hmmmmm
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William Wallace
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Quote: from Marky on 11:18 pm on July 13, 2002
Cough!!! Splutter!!! Spit!!!!
People in Paisley huv taken an eye oot fur less!!!
Outskirts of Glasgow indeed. I hardly think that the biggest town in Scotland could be decribed as being a suburb of Glasgow.
I suppose geographically speaking I would have to concede somewhat reluctantly that it is tecnically "on the outskirts of Glasgow". Elderslie however is not, being on the outskirts of Paisley on the non Glasgow side, so to speak.
Anyway WW, I cannae prove anything to you other than Elderslie is most definitely in Renfrewshire and that they claim, not least on their village signposts, to be "The Birthplace of William Wallace".
Suppose it could be just Wullie Wallace who used tae tan the meths ootside the Paisley cross lavvies.
That's the point I was trying to make, that Paisley cannae be described as the outskirts of Glasgow because of the size of it, so the person who wrote the book has got it wrong somewhere along the line.
Anyway, I looked up the road atlas and you are completely correct, and there is no Elderslie to be seen in Ayrshire.
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William Wallace
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And it seems the William Wallace society accept it as being in the outskirts of Paisley and not Ayrshire because the march ot Elderslie starts in Johnstone.  Maybe the author just got her Renfrewshires and Ayrshires mixed up.
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William Wallace
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Quote: from Bzzzz on 12:38 am on July 14, 2002
Bannockburn 4 MY ERSE!!!
it wis 5!!!
Its a sworn secret...
just like the Stone ae Scone wis...
So basically, you don't have a scooby who they were.
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Lamia
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Quote: from kill the dead on 2:21 pm on July 14, 2002
Sorry but after all the complaints about the English banging on about 1966 (which they don't) I see people going on about Bannockburn ...hmmmmm
And the similarities being?....
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