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chae424


Something to say
   
Can everyone post their honest opinion of the bid coming off.

Mine is about a 25% chance we get it.

Total Posts: 77 | Joined Feb. 2002 | Posted on: 10:42 pm on June 19, 2002 | IP
AlbaGuBrath



Administrator
   
Out of three bids with best chances, I would say it's:

Sco/Eir 40%
Nordic 35%
Aus/Swi 25%



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Total Posts: 916 | Joined Sep. 2001 | Posted on: 10:49 pm on June 19, 2002 | IP
Davie the CAT



GET A LIFE!!!
   
After hosting such an excellent Champions league final. It can only boost our chances of clinching our bid for 2008...............

I say we have about a 60% chance......

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Total Posts: 761 | Joined Dec. 2001 | Posted on: 10:59 pm on June 19, 2002 | IP
craigclyde


Opinionated Wind Bag
   
I think Davie is definetley right about the champions league point, but im going to go for 50% chance.

craigclyde

Total Posts: 243 | Joined Oct. 2001 | Posted on: 11:02 pm on June 19, 2002 | IP
WillfaeSwindon



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Scot/Ire 40%
Austria/Switz 40%
Nordic 20%

as far as i am concerned the others have no hope. not up to me though, unfortunately.

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Total Posts: 2232 | Joined Sep. 2001 | Posted on: 11:36 pm on June 19, 2002 | IP
Breathnach


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Chances have certainly increased. One of the potential drawbacks was Ireland's lack of national stadia, but Ireland were able to submit 3 potential grounds as part of the bid - the new national stadium, Landsdowne and Croke Park. UEFA officials have already inspected Croke Park and were very impressed and may even ask the GAA to allow European Cups to be played there. It is expected the GAA will have got rid of the soccer ban in a year or two, now that they see the potential income generated from soccer matches. The did allow the stadium to be used as part of the bid. The second thing going for the bid is the reputation and atmosphere of the Scots and Irish fans. This World Cup has shown the importance of fans - epecially home fans and the empty seats in the stadia will be a big concern and something UEFA won't want happening. 3rd, Ireland and Scotland are jointly higher ranking teams. We should have more than a 50-50 chance.

Total Posts: 13 | Joined Jan. 2002 | Posted on: 2:07 am on June 20, 2002 | IP
Crozzer the Bing



Opinionated Wind Bag
   
Apparently oor bid will have half a million more seats available for the whole tournament, something like 1.7m tickets compared to 1.2 from the Nordic application.

The Irish have picked up the fans of the WC award, so that can only be good news.

Nice of them to keep oor awards warm for us

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Total Posts: 241 | Joined May 2002 | Posted on: 9:00 am on June 20, 2002 | IP
wee john



Opinionated Wind Bag
   
I think we have a 50/50 with the Austria/Swiss chocolate bid.
Good to see folk coming round again, told you all you would.

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Total Posts: 241 | Joined Feb. 2002 | Posted on: 9:05 am on June 20, 2002 | IP
ColinG



Opinionated Wind Bag
   
Probably no better than 50/50. The Aus/Swiss bid is very good, but hopefully the Champions League Final will swing it for us

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Total Posts: 240 | Joined Feb. 2002 | Posted on: 9:33 am on June 20, 2002 | IP
Jam



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it's a straight fight between us and Austria/Switzerland.

Too close to call.

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Total Posts: 678 | Joined Sep. 2001 | Posted on: 10:39 am on June 20, 2002 | IP
Craig W



Talks too much
   
I think our bid is better, but who knows what goes on behind the scenes? Switzerland has got to have the advantage with UEFA HQ being in Geneva.

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Total Posts: 124 | Joined Feb. 2002 | Posted on: 11:13 am on June 20, 2002 | IP
westa 5556


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On the quality of bid we SHOULD get it [especially if we can confirm a 30,000 capacity stadium in the North-East]
However when you look at UEFA`s track record at awarding championships lets not raise our hopes too high.

Total Posts: 76 | Joined April 2002 | Posted on: 11:41 am on June 20, 2002 | IP
AlbaGuBrath



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Anyone knows how it goes with voting system? I mean Nordic obviously have 4 votes for sure in the very beginning! What about later?

I mean when there is some voting on international level then it doesn't matter who is better but it goes on friendly or business basis. Bare that in mind!

(Un)fortunately...

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MacMirza fae Sarajevo TA

Total Posts: 916 | Joined Sep. 2001 | Posted on: 11:57 am on June 20, 2002 | IP
CD



Talks too much
   
As far as I can see, the descision is based on 3 aspects of the bid.  Commercial viability, the ability to handle large events and the passion of the supporters.

With 500000 more seats available for games than our nearest rivals, I think we win on the comercial viability front.
Our ability to handle large events is reasonably well documented.   eg Champions League final, various golf chamionships and Edinburgh's 2 festivals, (summer and winter).
Passion of fans:  The 2 best sets of fans in the world, both in terms of behaviour and atmosphere created.


Saying all that, the voting system which makes these descisions is prone to unpredictability.

Scotland/Ireland-50%
Vikings-20%
Austro/Swiss-30%


I cant see them giving it to a bid which would require 4 automatic qualification spaces such as the Nordic one.

Total Posts: 111 | Joined Jan. 2002 | Posted on: 12:16 pm on June 20, 2002 | IP
wee john



Opinionated Wind Bag
   
Mirza,
The Nordic bid does not have 4 votes already.
The votes come from a 14 man committee, only these men count. They are coming to Scotland for a week on 9th Sept.

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Total Posts: 241 | Joined Feb. 2002 | Posted on: 12:23 pm on June 20, 2002 | IP
Lost It



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Aye and there is the rub..... It'll be decided by political machinations within UEFA. Are we owed favours or not? Scotland have been pretty strong supporters of the UEFA party line and have backed UEFA leadership with its wranglings with FIFA. However how many agendas are there.

However I think Its time to step up the ante and start the lobbying!

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Total Posts: 380 | Joined Mar. 2002 | Posted on: 12:36 pm on June 20, 2002 | IP
The Lochwinnoch lad



Talks too much
   
60/40........It's Gonna be tight!

Total Posts: 106 | Joined Sep. 2001 | Posted on: 2:20 pm on June 20, 2002 | IP
Corkie



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Between 25% and 50% depending on how corrupt the UEFA executive is

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Total Posts: 264 | Joined Mar. 2002 | Posted on: 2:32 pm on June 20, 2002 | IP
cazza



Opinionated Wind Bag
   
Think this is a close one to call, id guess we have  about a 60% chance of getting it.
The one point going against the nordic bid is the automatic qualification of 4 countries......dont think UEFA will go for this somehow but then again they can be very strange ppl when they want tae be

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Total Posts: 233 | Joined April 2002 | Posted on: 4:32 pm on June 20, 2002 | IP
Jonny



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cazza - the nordic group is proposing they have a play off between them to see which team qualifies automatically.

Total Posts: 610 | Joined Sep. 2001 | Posted on: 5:05 pm on June 20, 2002 | IP
 

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